
Bonus Episode: What does this mastery-level program hold?
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Katie talks with Judy van Zon and Katherine Starks about the ORSC™ Certification journey. Judy is the former director of the Certification program, while Katherine is an alumnus. ORSC Certification is a unique and comprehensive eight-month program with extensive practice and online study designed to produce the best ORSC practitioners in the world! Throughout this conversation, we discuss what makes the program so unique, the intentions and outcomes of the course, edge crossing, the practicalities of the course, the impact of world work, and much more.
Judy van Zon
Katherine Starks
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with host Katie Churchman
Judy van Zon supports individuals and systems in moving beyond self-imposed limitations and reconnecting with their true selves. Even in one-on-one work, she brings a systems perspective, recognizing that no one operates in isolation. Her practice creates impact through interconnection, fostering shared responsibility rooted in compassion and curiosity.
Katherine Starks’career in financial services laid the groundwork for a natural progression to the next stage: coaching and mentoring other professionals so that they too can find their path and passion in life.